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Get your facts in order before you try to analyze the situation.
You claim "Republicans have not threatened to leave the country. Nor have they called him names", when in fact they have. And its not just the Sean Hannity's and Rush Limbaugh's joining in--actual Republican politicians are keeping up with the same kind of fear-mongering and smearing they did during the campaign itself.
Just yesterday Paul Broun, US Congressman from Georgia, told the Associated Press that "he fears that President-elect Obama will establish a Gestapo-like security force to impose a Marxist or fascist dictatorship."
He went on to say that "That's exactly what Hitler did in Nazi Germany and it's exactly what the Soviet Union did..."
Not exactly the kind of bipartisan, work together to solve our very real economic problems cooperation we need. But, then again, the Republican party turned into fear mongerers during the election (which cost them the election), why expect them to change so fast?
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iRxZox4GFoIw...
I am sure you will respond with some hate filled comments and I expect nothing less, but that is the difference between you and me I offer facts to back up my comments you offer, well only comments!
Have a great day and by the way thank a Vet for their service to this country, it was their hard work that allows folks like you to say the things you do..........
But I find it funny that you compare the words of nonpoliticians like Alec Baldwin or Ted Nugent to the hate ful words of an actual Republican Congressman who is a representative of his party (and why not kick him out if that's not acceptable to Republicans?). The concept of false equivalencies comes to mind when I read your blog response.
I've posted all of 2 times here and your response is to stereotype and paint with a broad brush?
But, I'll take your word for it ("Just because someone puts it on a blog doesn't make it a fact"). Republican Representative Broun's comments were to a major media outlet, not just a blog. His comparison of Obama to Hitler and Stalin weren't behind the scenes or off the record murmurings. He spoke his hate and fearmongering loud and clear to the AP (or is that not an independent source to you?). You have time to write attacks on the comment section of your website, but you don't have the ability to type Rep. Broun's name into Google and read his hate filled words first hand?
As for your examples of Rather and Gumble, they are commentators, not representatives of a political party. Again, false equivalencies have no place here. Tit for tat is a pretty good way of covering one's a**, but not a good way to actual get anything done for our country.
I guess I'm still trying to make sense of your argument....is the shorthand of it that the republican party needs to lead by ramming an even righter leaning fist down the throats of those unwilling to vote for it? Because that doesn't seem like leadership, it seems like useless.
The "clear" Democrat victory, if we are so wrong then how come the losses are not what was predicted and let me add the Prop 8 loss in California.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/scorecard/1108/Ge...
1. The way Dan "proudrepublican" Foley ends up getting called out by his readers and invariably starts complaining and jousting at windmills in the comments section of his own column.
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2. Dan Foley's poorly written and barely factual commentaries to being with.
Steve "Heather Wilson is Liberal" Pearce wasn't Conservative enough in his double digit loss?
Darren "Ronald Reagan Tattoo" White wasn't Conservative enough in his double digit loss?
Ed "My Opponent Wants to Slit the Throats of American Soldiers" Tinsley wasn't Conservative enough in his double digit loss?
Really, now, Dan Foley, why don't you tell the readers how YOU weren't Conservative enough in your loss? That would at least be based on something you personally know.
All 3 congressional Republicans lost by double digits and Foley lost his own election.
Pearce and Tinsley really did say those things and White does have a Reagan tattoo on his ankle.
Please explain yourself--which of them (Foley, Pearce, Tinsley and White) are Neo-cons and which are Conservatives? Are you saying that Foley's characterization of some in his party as "Liberal" is really just calling Neo-Cons "Liberals"?
In the end you validate one of OHReallyNow's main points: that Dan Foley doesn't know what he's talking about and that he ends up having to depend on his readers to correct him (that includes both you as well as ones who disagree with him).
OhReallyNow misstated the facts by implying that any of them are conservative. He was incorrectly lumping the neo-cons (Foley, Pearce, Tinsely, White) in with conservatives.
But in the end maybe you are right, maybe people should just abandon the conservative label and let it sink with the neo-cons. It is disappointing when people lump the expansion of the executive, borrow and spend neo-cons into the right wing, even though they really have no conservative principles to speak of.
However, I don't fully agree that all these Republicans are Neo-Cons and not simply Cons or that they same person might not overlap. You might have your personal definition of Conservative, but the public's working definition most certainly includes Foley, Pearce, White and Tinsley. Liberal has changed over the years as well.
Moreover, I really don't think that Neo-Cons are "Liberals" by any means.
I was agains the Patriot Act and expressed so to the President in person! I am not and never have approved of growing government at any level. As a matter of fact I am on record trying to shrink government and give more power to the government closes to the people (City Council, School Board, County Commission, etc).
I say this as a native Southerner who has lived all over the US. I know it's easy and simple to pick on the Deep South, and, given its history, justifiable. But what sometimes is missed is how race is viewed in the Northeast and industrial midwest. I spent six years in Connecticut, a state and a people I dearly love. But frankly as a Southerner it was sometimes put into uncomfortable situations. Why? Because it's the whitest state I've ever lived in and it was odd and somewhat disconcerting to be in a room with a bunch of people who looked like me (It took me a while to recognize why I was so uncomfortable. For the record, I grew up in Georgia, where there is more racial mixing and it is not as easy to mingle with one race. I also have lived in California, Florida, Connecticut and now New Mexico). Connecticut, in case you are interested, is the wealthiest state in per capita income and yet is home to some of the poorest cities in the nation. (And, yes, it went overwhelmingly for Obama, like its neighbors NY and Massachusetts). I don't believe that it is a coincidence that the wealthy areas in CT are small towns and suburbs that are overwhelmingly white. And that the urban cores have high concentrations of people of color. When I suggested that this sort of economic segregation reminded me of the South, I heard over and over again that it was about economics, not race. Really?! That's what some people in the South used to say when I was growing up. Go figure! I guess my point here is that to continue to think of any one region as racist shows a lack of understanding surrounding the complexity of race, class and economics. And frankly that sort of attitude allows certain states and regions a free ride on important dialogue that we as a nation -- not a region -- must have.
As for the GOP, it must have a serious debate about the direction of the party. Unsurprisingly, prominent Rs like Lamar Alexander, Susan Collins, Mel Martinez and Peter King are saying the party shouldn't become more conservative. The GOP dialogue will be fascinating and, frankly, I suggest that all of us can learn something from it.
I think the Republican Party has bigger problems than whether or not the current leadership presents "conservative" policies. The proof will be in the pudding - and until people like Lindsay Graham and others lose their grip on the direction and guidance of the GOP - that party will continue to suffer.
A "moderate" is someone who really doesn't have a position on anything - and becomes an appeaser and capitulator most of the time. John McCain - the darling of the liberal media until he became the nominee for the Republican Party has proven that time and again with his "reaching across the aisle" and drawing back a nub.
What the GOP really needs is a good thorough housecleaning - it started with this past election. What amazes me is some of those who were swept out of the way still ramble on and on like they deserve to be acknowledged. One can only hope that truly fresh faces, with true conservative ideals (think Goldwater, not Reagan) will emerge from this debacle and save this party - if it doesn't then expect to see stronger and stronger showings from third party candidates who actually walk that walk Foley writes about: "less government, less taxes and more personal responsibility." Those really are principles most Americans would like to see. Unfortunately, not very many Republicans have been following that model for a long time, and the voters finally caught on. The voters decided that if the Republicans were going to act like liberals, then they might as well vote in some REAL liberals, not just some posers who couldn't resist a bottomless pit of funding from a POTUS who could never find his veto pen.
Remember Dr. Kind and Dr. Abernathy were both Republicans as were the founders of the NAACP, but I am sure yo will have an answer for that as well.
I would encourage you to read a little about history and the so called "southern strategy" and look at stuff from folks like Michael Baron who talk about why the South went for Republicans. I am sure there are some racist folks out there but it had to do with secularism and the move to the hard left by the democrats on things like abortion and prayer in schools. Stop trying to spit out tlaking points that are false, no matter how many times people say them they still are false.........