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  Thomas_James

  9 months ago

  They won't do it. The Dem party is totally controlled by liberal special interests. Read Dem=liberal elitist=hypocrite.
  
  I bet you they won't even respond to your post.
  
  Come on Barb, Chimpy, New_Mexican, etc. Dan is right on this one. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander... lets hear your righteous indignation and snide comments about Garcia.
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  Jeeter

  9 months ago

  "How come nobody is calling for her (Garcia) to resign with the same strength and vigor they did for C. deBaca?" -- Dan Foley, ACE race reporter for The Independent
  
  Dan, you are absolutely right! This quote from an obscure NM state senator quoted in the Republican mouthpiece newspaper of Colorado certainly is as egregious as the racist remarks of the HEAD OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IN NEW MEXICO'S MOST POPULOUS COUNTY. The other day, I think I heard little Johnny on the middle school playground say something racially offensive, too. Call the Urinal!
  
  A quick linguistic analysis of Ms. Garcia's comments actually indicates that she was prompted by the reporter for these comments: "conceding that “there have always been conflicts between blacks and
  browns.” The word "concede" means that Ms. Garcia was agreeing with a statement from somebody at this interview, presumably the reporter prompting her by saying something like "Isn't it true that there have always been conflicts between blacks and browns here in New Mexico?" I have a feeling Ms. Garcia was just trying to be polite to a stranger.
  
  And I presume that Dan Foley has not actually contacted Ms. Garcia for clarification of her remarks. Gasp! Is Dan trusting "Big Media" here to report the Truth?!! What if - shudder - the Rocky Mountain News just made all this stuff up?!!
  
  By the way, Danny boy, spending your first two paragraphs distancing yourself from being a racist is ... how to say this delicately ... "This fledgling columnist doth protest too much, methinks."
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  proudrepublican

  9 months ago

  Jeeter I have to say you are a hypocrit and after seeing your remarks to my column I hope you never agree with me on anything. I have been accused of a lot in my life but racism has never been one of them, I can not believe the depths you will go to give Senator Garcia cover and to say that she is a "obscure" State Senator when she is the Democrat Whip in the Senate is like saying Thomas Jefferson was just your average citizen! You my friend just go to prove how intellectually dishonest liberals are and once again Republicans do the right thing and you are either to afraid, partisan or ignorant to admit your mistake and correct it, I bet it is a little of all three.........
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  Thomas_James

  9 months ago

  He's got you there Jeeter boy.....
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  Jeeter

  9 months ago

  Thomas_James: "Got me?" Huh. I see nothing in PR Dan's comments but the same old bluster and bullying that he used to such stellar effect on the floor of the Roundhouse (and that Roswell basketball court, for that matter.) Watch out everybody! Facts, get out of the way! Here comes master debater Dan Foley with the courage of his invective!
  
  Now, Dan, a point-by-point examination of all of your misleading statements and groundless positions would waste too much time, but you're claiming Republicans are leading the way regarding race relations in the US? So HOW MANY black Republican senators and House members are there on Capitol Hill? And that "Southern strategy" used by the GOP every election in the south to crank up the bigotry and support of whites below the Mason-Dixon line. Very race sensitive! Oh, another: Bush spread the "McCain's illegitimate black-baby" lie about the current GOP pres nominee in South Carolina in 2000 to win South Carolina. Yes, if Republikkkans are the party I think of when I think of civil rights, it's because they've OPPOSED them year after year in every way possible in America. Opposition to civil rights actually DEFINES the GOP these days everywhere in the US except in Dan Foley's vivid imagination.
  
  But now I'm curious: tell me ONE bill sponsored by Dan Foley in the legislature that had anything to do with improving race relations or advancing civil rights. ONE BILL, please. You were there for a few years, no? What am I saying? You were a GOP leader! There must be a whole list of landmark civil rights legislation you can point to and be proud of, right? Cough 'em up, Danny boy, and let's revel in your proud legislative history.
  
  And a very quick look at the demographics of pretty much every major election would confirm the status of the GOP on race relations. I mean, it's frickin' NEWS when the GOP gets more than 30% minority support ANYWHERE! So tell us all about the compassionate but misunderstood GOP, as regards race relations in the US. We're all ears. But I trust you used more convincing arguments - i.e., facts - during debates when you were a minority yourself up in the Roundhouse.
  
  And let's see, you're claiming Mary Garcia is like Thomas Jefferson? OK. And you're Abraham Lincoln because you spent two paragraphs saying you're no racist. Right ... Rant on, Danny boy! I imagine you have a lot of scores to settle with your old nemesis, Ms. Garcia, so keep it up. Maybe someday you'll get that sweet revenge you're obviously slavering after. (But one hint: find a respectable media source rather than the Rocky Mtn Enquirer).
  
  Now, this forum isn't full of cream-puffs like our state legislators who'll pretend to listen to the garbage you're spewing, and only laugh at you behind your back. This is the real world, Dan, and in the real world we can laugh IN YOUR FACE and say you're an just another tired, washed-up GOP troll longing for attention and revenge so bad you're peddling your lies and venom on a some "obscure" political website in New Mexico. How pathetic! How LOW the mighty have fallen! Proof? You're actually arguing with ME!
  
  (And, say, how DID you get that judge to drop assault charges, anyway? Way to play our damaged judicial system! Congrats! Say, Heather was just asking about a good lawyer. I told her you might know someone good at, you know, defending poor, victimized Republicans such as yourself.)
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  NMPollyTicks

  9 months ago

  I seldom agree with Foley, but I commented on this issue in this newsletter several days ago. All the bluster that Jeeter (Tobacco Road) uses just obscures the comments Garcia used. She and C de Baca are about the same age. All I see is people like Jeeter obscuring the discussion with ranting and raving while not addressing the main issue. By the way Garcia is a state senator. Foley is a state representative. Wrong side of the house Jeeter. Oh well Jeeter "One of these days" (Tobacco Road).
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  Jeeter

  9 months ago

  Oh, right Polly, there are two houses in the Roundhouse. Thanks for that clarification! Now, what was that supposed to add to the discussion of Republican racism in New Mexico? That was the "main issue" I think.
  
  Oh, and did you hear: Foley is not a state representative, he's an ex-state representative?
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  NMPollyTicks

  9 months ago

  Foley was a state representative, I should have said "was" in the response. He is not now that is why I refer to him as Foley.
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  Jeeter

  9 months ago

  Thanks for the clarification. And let me make it clear that Danny boy is a tired, washed-up GOP troll, which is why I called him a tired, washed-up GOP troll.
  
  Cheers!
  
  JC
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  new_mexican

  9 months ago

  Good points Jeeter. Stay on them.
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  Thomas_James

  9 months ago

  Actually i would say Jeeter is way off base....(bad joke but couldnt help it)
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  proudrepublican

  9 months ago

  Jeeter I am not have not argued with you once but as is proof by your comments when ever Liberals are wrong they just attack. You can attack me all you want you still have not answered or offered up any proof to counter my column other then your own twisted opinion. I my friend stated facts something that is always missign from your comments.
  
  As to my political care all I can say is far better to actually have had one then to be like yourself who hides behind a "code name" and attacks everyone. How come you Liberals are alwasy so right but afraid to put your name next to what you say at least I sign what I write.
  
  With all that said keep reading and helping prove my point everytime you write something the GOP picks up 5 more votes from people who read this blog.
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  chimpymcflightsuit

  9 months ago

  Holy crap, I'm glad I'm not your editor.
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  Jeeter

  9 months ago

  Dan,
  
  Attempting to decipher your recent foaming post, I was reminded of the brilliant linguistic skills of your current GOP VP candidate, Palin. I'm she could use someone with your "verbiage" skills in her speechwriter pool. And then your use of the phrase "my friend." Ah! McCain at his most chummy and dishonest! You know, without a niceties like this, the rest of your statements could sound a bit shrill and mean spirited. Thanks for being civil and sticking to your facts.
  
  Now, I asked you for one shred of evidence for your statement about how Republicans lawmakers - especially yourself - have "done what is right" for civil rights here in New Mexico or anywhere else. That was the central thrust of your commentary, as you recall, right? GOP = Martin Luther King, Jr. and the Democrats = Klan, remember? One bill, one memorial, one offhand comment, one tiny shred ... something? Ok, we'll all wait ....
  
  Tick ... tick ... tick ... <cough> ... tick ... tick ... tick ...
  
  DING!
  
  So, I take your complete silence on this issue as an admission that your rhetorical "high horse" on racial issues is as laughable as the rest of your whiny nonsense. Or perhaps you saying that you can see Selma and Montgomery, Alabama from your bedroom window so you know all about this issue?
  
  Want to discuss facts? OK. I didn't even mention your use of C. de Baca's name in the same sentence with the words "integrity" and "courage"!! In the end, the NM GOP practically dragged Fernando out of his office hooded, gagged and hogtied! I'm not sure being thrown under a bus can be called a courageous act of integrity, but you are certainly entitled to your own ... uh ... set of facts.
  
  Too much time wasted here. I had better end my "wrong Liberal attack" here before more people reading this blog immediately start voting Republican! Thanks for the tip! And thanks for calling me "always so right." I appreciate that, even if you dismiss my name as some kind of code.
  
  Exit, stage left!
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  SanchoPanza

  9 months ago

  Republicans appear motivatived by greed. The theory of trickle down economics is condescending and has lead us to the cusp of depression. The dishonest and selfish nature of the GOP is why people jumped all over C de Baca and not Mary Jane Garcia. However, what she said is equally wrong, which is why I am an Independent. But when you create a negative image of yourself through deception and condescension no one is going to give you the benefit of doubt.
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  Project_Truth

  9 months ago

  Mary Jane Garcia gets away with comments like this because she's a doting Democrat in a Democratically controlled state. She is always prepared to toss her principles (if she had any) aside for the betterment of her precious political party, which has elevated her to an inflated status much beyond her real abilities. But then - that seems to be pretty typical in New Mexico politics - stick around long enough and you'll end up in some level of authority ... like a leadership position in the statehouse, regardless of your actual credentials or character...!
  I wonder - since the story goes that Mary Jane and her sister spent some time in SE Asia during the 60s "entertaining" the troops ... if she has had her own share of personal issues with "blacks," or if this is just a deep seeded racist thing that permeates many of her generation ...?
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  Jeeter

  9 months ago

  Hey, Project_Truth (or whatever your REAL name is!) I think this remark of yours is waaaay off base:
  
  "... New Mexico politics - stick around long enough and you'll end up in some level of authority ... like a leadership position in the statehouse, regardless of your actual credentials or character ..."
  
  Now that's below the belt, PT! I've heard - from Dan Foley himself, actually - that Dan Foley did an excellent job as minority whip up in the Roundhouse. Cheap shots such as attacking Dan Foley's leadership position, credentials and character might seem like an easy job, but let me tell you, it's ... uh ... it's proved to be a lot easier than it sounds. Still, you need to back up your accusations against Dan with some facts. Like more fully discussing his credentials and character. He hasn't, for instance, spent any time in SE Asia, has he? He IS "entertaining" I have noticed.
  
  And, what can I say?, nice job blowing the lid off the state-legislator/Vietnamese "entertainer" story. Funny, I'm SURE I haven't seen anything about that in the Journal and they usually jump on provocative gossip like that. You know, you and Dan - if you could set aside your differences for an afternoon - might really be able to manufacture - oops! I mean "research" - an incredible story here about your arch-nemesis, Ms. Garcia. And I mean "INCREDIBLE!"
  
  Incredible! Just like you, PT!
  
  jc
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  Project_Truth

  9 months ago

  The Garcia sisters spending time in SE Asia isn't a "new story," JC - if you ever spent any time in Las Cruces, you would have heard it many times.
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  proudrepublican

  9 months ago

  Jeeter just by asking what have Repubs done in the state house for civil rights shows how little you even respect the actual civil rights movement. My record as a legislator and the bills I have introduced are open to anyone who wnats to see them, and once again my REAL name is on them. I will not even bother explaining Blackdom and Roswell to you because it will fall on deaf ears.
  
  For you to try and accuse me of attacking is laughable you have said nothing to refute my column other then to attack me, the party and then ask some crazy off the wall comment like "what have Repubs done in the Legislature"? What I have written is clearly factual and checkable your comments are nothing more then hate filled rhetoric that I guess in your tiny mind is factual. Asking what Republicans have done in the NM Legislature and trying to equate that to civil right once again shows your ignorance or this issue and the political processs. Remember you and your fellow LIBERALS wanted civil rights to be a states rights issue so you could continue to promote slavery, Jim Crow Laws, Grandfather clauses and WHite Primaries to name only a few. It was the GOP that made it a Federal issue (with the help and support of RFK and JFK) but your good frineds like Robert Byrd and Al Gores father that tried to fight it all the way.
  
  Even other Liberals who have integrity and a shred of common sense have called out Mary Jane on her comments so come on out of the cave the war is over you are the only one really left fighting, but that should come as no suprise to you orthers who know you.
  
  Now Jeeter I am done educating your ignorant butt because it once again will fall on deaf ears, keep reading and writting you are the best thing to happen to the GOP in a long long time......
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  Jeeter

  9 months ago

  Dan,
  
  On reflection, your continued insistence on equating Ms. Garcia's comments to those of Mr. C. de Baca's is truly a bold move and one that may ultimately pay off for you should you pursue it with the same combative vigor you have demonstrated, say, on the basketball courts of Roswell. And I'm very glad your ancestors helped found the town of Blackdom or whatever you are implying by mentioning that interesting African-American ghost town in New Mexico.
  
  From your remarks so far, I can see your knowledge of and involvement in human rights in New Mexico is deeper and more heartfelt than I could ever have imagined. I apologize for thinking that you could ever be just trying to reap cheap political hay out of Ms. Garcia's remarks. I should have realized that your even-tempered and insightful remarks so far on this subject were just your misty-eyed attempt to open a dialogue on race relations in New Mexico. For that I offer you my sincerest regrets straight from, as you might say, the bottom of my "Liberal, uneducated, ignorant butt."
  
  However, getting back the point of your column (sorry to keep hammering at this!), I just realized that we have been overlooking somebody on the VERY SAME FRONT PAGE of the New Mexico Independent who is expressing the EXACT SAME IDEAS as Ms. Garcia whom you hold in such contempt . Hard to believe, I know. Now, scroll down the page (the "Page Down" key should do it) in the NM Independent and look for the following article:
  
  "Racial tension between Hispanics and blacks is real" By Barbara Armijo 9/26/08 8:28 AM
  
  Ms. Armijo has written a carefully thought out and researched piece that expresses - and elaborates on - AAAARRGGGHHHH! - the EXACT SAME IDEAS as Ms. Garcia. Outrageous, huh? (You know, it may be just my imagination but I think I can actually HEAR you seethe as you read this!)
  
  Now, Dan, I hope you are intellectually honest enough to communicate your profound outrage to your fellow-columnist Barbara Armijo who, as I mentioned, is expressing the EXACT SAME IDEAS as Ms. Garcia. I must warn you, though: this Ms. Armijo uses quotes to support her arguments; and correct spelling; and complete sentences; and multiple sources. But I think if you do your best "writting" and use your REAL name, you should be fine.
  
  Go to it, Dan! This is your moment! But remember, you - like your momma Palin - gotta watch those "crazy, off-the-wall comments." They're fine with "tiny-mind" slobs like me, but they don't play so well with non-ignorant, educated people. Just a thought.
  
  JC
  
  PS: I forgot! I AM glad you think I'm the best thing to happen to the GOP in a long time! You know, I actually think you may be inadvertently telling the truth for once! Cheers!
  
  PPS: Tick - tick - tick - tick - tick - tick - tick - tick - tick ...
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